AS MANY AS or MORE THAN

by **rte.sushil** Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:54 am

I was going through the idioms given in manhattan book. I went across :

Suspect:
1.) We have as many apples as or more apples than you

Wrong:
2.) As many as OR More than 250 newspapers are published here.

As the statements are self explanatory, so please tell me what is the concept that one is kept under suspect and another in wrong in the similar types"as many as or more than". Am i missing something critical?

by **nt2011** Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:38 am

My version had the As missing from as many and more than.

The wrong version of the suspect sample is as follows

We have as many or more apples than you.

by **rte.sushil** Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:36 am

So this statement says that:

nt2011 Wrote:st subject:Â Re: AS MANY AS or MORE THAN
My version had the As missing from as many and more than.

The wrong version of the suspect sample is as follows

We have as many or more apples than you.

We have as many apples as or more apples than you is always wrong.

by **jlucero** Fri Dec 28, 2012 1:55 pm

The first pair of idioms are:

as many X as
more X than

Wrong:
We have as many apples or more apples than you (missing as many as)

Ok:
We have as many apples as or more apples than you (both idioms used properly)

Here's the second idiom comparison:

as many as
as many X as

I have as many as 10 pencils (I have FEWER OR EQUAL to 10 pencils)
I have as many pencils as you do (I have the same number of pencils)
I have more pencils than you do (I have MORE pencils than you do)

So when you combine "as many as" (fewer or equal) with "more than" (greater number), you are saying that you have either fewer, equal, or greater number of pencils. Basically, you're not saying anything at all.

As many as (less than or equal to 250) OR More than (more than 250) 250 newspapers are published here.

by **ShyamaP408** Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:04 am

Just a clarification..
So, is the idiom "As many as or more than" correct in GMAT.
I am asking this because, this idiom is listed under suspect in MGMAT guide and in gmat club forums, I see that it's incorrect.

Please clarify..

Thanks.

by **RonPurewal** Sat Apr 08, 2017 4:01 am

this has nothing to do with "idioms" -- it's just a completely meaningless phrasing. think about it for a sec.

"as many as or more than [number]" can refer to absolutely ANY NUMBER AT ALL.

e.g.,
"as many as or more than 100"
—> "as many as 100" means "≤ 100"
—> "more than 100" means "> 100"
—> taken together, these cover literally every possible number in the world.

whatever context this might appear in, it's pretty obvious that the intended meaning can't be "any number in the whole world" (...otherwise there would be no point in mentioning the "100" or whatever other number appears in the sentence).

so, this has nothing to do with "idioms"; it's just absurd/meaningless.