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Does line k intersect quad II?

by denise.lu Mon Feb 16, 2009 9:12 pm

DS question - does line k intersect quad II (upper left hand quadrant)?
1) slope of K = -1/6
2) y-int of k = -6

The answer is A but not quite sure to get this?
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by RonPurewal Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:38 am

denise.lu Wrote:DS question - does line k intersect quad II (upper left hand quadrant)?
1) slope of K = -1/6
2) y-int of k = -6

The answer is A but not quite sure to get this?


the 1/6 is irrelevant; all that matters in (1) is that the slope is negative.
lines with negative slopes go up to the left, down to the right. this means that, if you follow ANY negatively sloped line far enough to the left, it will go up into the second quadrant.
negatively sloped lines MUST hit quadrants 2 and 4.
positively sloped lines MUST hit quadrants 1 and 3.

zero exceptions.
the other quadrants are mutually exclusive options. i.e., if a positively sloped line hits quadrant 2, then it can't hit quadrant 4, and vice versa. same thing with quadrants 1 and 3 for negatively sloped lines.

with statement (2), a horizontal or positively sloped line through (0, -6) won't hit quadrant 2, but a negatively sloped line will, so that's insufficient.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by denise.lu Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:38 am

Thanks Ron!
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by JonathanSchneider Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:26 pm

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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by nitin_prakash_khanna Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:32 am

Instructors,
is this really true for a negative slope line to hit the 2nd and 4th quadrant as Ron explained.

Lets say i have a line x=3 which is parallel to y axis. Now if i just turn it to the left, just a tiny bit may be by few seconds (less than a degree). So that the slope is negative and if i extend this line from negative infinity to positive infinity, will it neccessary hit the 2nd quadrant? Can it just stay in 1st and 4th quadrant like the the x=3 line.?

Thanks in advance for a response.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by anoo.anand Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:18 am

yes of course it will pass thru 2nd and 4th quadrant unless it is finite lenth line...
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by nitin_prakash_khanna Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:46 am

Thanks Understand it.
If the lines are not parallel somewhere they will intersect.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:42 am

nitin_prakash_khanna Wrote:So that the slope is negative and if i extend this line from negative infinity to positive infinity, will it neccessary hit the 2nd quadrant?


yes.

Can it just stay in 1st and 4th quadrant like the the x=3 line.?

no.

let's say the slope is -0.000000001 (i.e., negative one-billionth).
still, this means that it moves to the left one unit for every billion that it goes up.
move over enough billions, and you'll make it.
apply the same reasoning to any other negative slope.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by nitin_prakash_khanna Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:19 am

Yes it will have to go a lots of billions up there but will go to 2nd quadrant for sure.
Thanks for your explanation Ron, appreciate it.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by Ben Ku Sat Oct 03, 2009 6:05 pm

Glad it helped.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by herogmat Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:39 pm

Hi Ron,
I understand the concept of negative , positive , zero and undefined slopes. Thanks for your explanation. I have a doubt though. I am not questioning the official answer - no way :-)
You mentioned below:
QUOTE
negatively sloped lines MUST hit quadrants 2 and 4.
positively sloped lines MUST hit quadrants 1 and 3.
UNQUOTE
I am just wondering that if the negatively slope line is 'finite' and don't go upto the quardant 2 . Is there any specific reason that we should not at all think about that possibility ?
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by ps63739 Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:54 pm

If it mentions a line segment (within finite points) then we can think about that.. However, if it mentions just a line, there I don't think we should.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by herogmat Mon Apr 12, 2010 3:58 pm

I see ... You mean to say , if it is mentioned 'line' , then we should treat that as an infinite line. For this to be finite , it must be mentioned as line segment.
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Re: Does line k intersect quad II?

by RonPurewal Sun May 23, 2010 4:08 am

herogmat Wrote:I see ... You mean to say , if it is mentioned 'line' , then we should treat that as an infinite line. For this to be finite , it must be mentioned as line segment.
Thanks


yes.

lines don't stop.