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How to use "this"

by thanghnvn Mon Dec 05, 2011 3:25 am

In the following, Ron, member, Pls, explain the use of "this " in the answer choice E. I know that "this" in E is wrong, but do not know why.

can I write:
I learn English and this help many persons
or I have to write
I learn English, helping many persons.

By sucking sap from the young twigs of the hemlock tree,// tree growth is retarded by the woolly adelgid, causing needles to change color from deep green to grayish green and to drop //prematurely.

A. tree growth is retarded by the woolly adelgid, causing needles to change color from deep green to grayish green and to drop
B. tree growth is retarded by the woolly adelgid, and this causes the color of needles to change from deep green to grayish green, and their dropping
C. the woolly adelgid retards tree growth, which causes needles to change color from deep green to grayish green, and dropping
D. the woolly adelgid retards tree growth, causing needles to change color from deep green to grayish green and to drop
E. the woolly adelgid retards tree growth, and this causes the color of needles to change from deep green to grayish green, and the their dropping
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Re: How to use "this"

by muzumdar.siddharth Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:51 pm

Hi,

IMO, in the SC question, the 'this' in the option E refers to the subject of the sentence - the woolly adelgid. In this case, however, the adelgid does not cause the color of needles to change. The entire process of retardation of tree growth causes the needles to change color.

In option D, the correct answer, the word 'causing' refers to the entire clause before it (the woolly adelgid retards tree growth). This reference to the entire clause correctly implies that the whole process of retardation, not just the adelgid, is responsible for the change in color.

Would love to be corrected if I am mistaken anywhere.
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Re: How to use "this"

by thanghnvn Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:56 am

pls, help.

the word "this" in E is correct or not. Pls, explain, I feel that "this" is wrong but do not know why.
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Re: How to use "this"

by muzumdar.siddharth Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:27 am

"This" in E is wrong because it refers to the woolly adelgid. "This" cannot refer to the entire clause preceding the comma.

thanghnvn Wrote:In the following, Ron, member, Pls, explain the use of "this " in the answer choice E. I know that "this" in E is wrong, but do not know why.

can I write:
I learn English and this help many persons
or I have to write
I learn English, helping many persons.


In this example, the first sentence is wrong because the antecedent to "this" is not clear. If you want to replace the word "this" with a noun, you would ask something like this - What helps many people? You learning English or just English? If you want to say that 'your learning English' helps many people, then you would say the second sentence, which is the correct sentence.
If you want to say that English helps many people, then you would just say - I learn English, which helps many people.

Hope this is satisfactory.
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Re: How to use "this"

by thanghnvn Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:14 am

do you mean that "this" has to refer to a specific noun not to an preceding idea/preceding clause?
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Re: How to use "this"

by tim Tue Dec 27, 2011 2:07 pm

As per the forum rules, we need a verifiable source for the problem before we can deal with this question. If the question is not one of ours or one that is copyright-free, we will have to delete the question..
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Re: How to use "this"

by rspcat Tue Jul 23, 2013 8:07 am

gmatprep question.
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Re: How to use "this"

by tim Thu Jul 25, 2013 7:45 am

Thanks. If anyone still has questions on this one, please let us know.
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Re: How to use "this"

by gbyhats Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:06 pm

I will take a shot in analyzing each choice:

A) "By sucking sap from..." illogically modifiers "tree growth"

B) Same as A; there is nothing can be parallel with "their dropping"

C) "Which..." illogically refers to "tree growth"; there is nothing can be parallel with "dropping"

D) Correct

E) "this" alone cannot be used a pronoun (to make it act as a pronounce, you can say "this + NOUN"); there is nothing can be parallel with "the their dropping"

By sucking sap from the young twigs of the hemlock tree, tree growth is retarded by the woolly adelgid, causing needles to change color from deep green to grayish green and to drop prematurely.

A. tree growth is retarded by the woolly adelgid, causing needles to change color from deep green to grayish green and to drop
B. tree growth is retarded by the woolly adelgid, and this causes the color of needles to change from deep green to grayish green, and their dropping
C. the woolly adelgid retards tree growth, which causes needles to change color from deep green to grayish green, and dropping
D. the woolly adelgid retards tree growth, causing needles to change color from deep green to grayish green and to drop
E. the woolly adelgid retards tree growth, and this causes the color of needles to change from deep green to grayish green, and the their dropping
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Re: How to use "this"

by RonPurewal Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:06 pm

that all looks good.
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Re: How to use "this"

by RonPurewal Fri Feb 20, 2015 4:06 pm

... and there MUST be some sort of mistranscription of the original. there's no way GMAC would write "the their..." in an answer choice.
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Re: How to use "this"

by gbyhats Fri Feb 20, 2015 6:11 pm

Hi Dear Ron :)

Thank you very much for your replies!

there's no way GMAC would write "the their..." in an answer choice.


Yeah! I had the same thought in my head when I was reading choice (E)

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I'm sorry I don't have one either. I came across this questions in other website (I can't remember now I'm sorry :( ), googled it and found this thread in Manhattan Forum.
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Re: How to use "this"

by RonPurewal Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:07 pm

ok. well, there's no source, so the thread is now locked. (if you later come across a source for this problem, go ahead and start a new thread.)

thanks.