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In the major cities of industrialized countries at the end

by Guest Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:03 am

In the major cities of industrialized countries at the end of the nineteenth century, important public places such as theaters, restaurants, shops, and banks had installed electric lighting, but electricity was in less than one percent of homes, where lighting was still provided mainly by candles or gas.
A. electricity was in less than one percent of homes, where lighting was still
B. electricity was in less than one percent of homes and lighting still
C. there were less than one percent of homes with electricity, where lighting was still being
D. there was less than one percent of homes that had electricity, having lighting that was still
E. less than one percent of homes had electricity, where lighting had still been

The correct answer is A, which is in the orginal sentence. I understand why B-D are not correct. Can someone explain to me why A is a better answer than E though? Thanks.
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by Guest Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:22 pm

for (E) , it should be where lighting still was provided by ..
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by RonPurewal Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:19 am

There are at least the following 2 things wrong with choice E:

* The tense ('had still been') is wrong considering the context. 'Had still been' implies that lighting in homes was no longer provided by candles and gas at the time referenced in the sentence (past perfect means that event is over with and done, although it may still be in some way relevant to the CURRENT situation). But the sentence is supposed to say that home electricity was still being provided by these items.

* Misplaced modifier: The way this sentence is written, it implies that electricity is 'where lighting had still been provided ... blah blah blah'. But this description is clearly supposed to refer to homes.

I agree that choice A sounds pretty retarded, but it avoids these mistakes.
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Re: In the major cities of industrialized countries at the e

by TheChakra Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:47 pm

Anonymous Wrote:In the major cities of industrialized countries at the end of the nineteenth century, important public places such as theaters, restaurants, shops, and banks had installed electric lighting, but electricity was in less than one percent of homes, where lighting was still provided mainly by candles or gas.
A. electricity was in less than one percent of homes, where lighting was still
B. electricity was in less than one percent of homes and lighting still
C. there were less than one percent of homes with electricity, where lighting was still being
D. there was less than one percent of homes that had electricity, having lighting that was still
E. less than one percent of homes had electricity, where lighting had still been

The correct answer is A, which is in the orginal sentence. I understand why B-D are not correct. Can someone explain to me why A is a better answer than E though? Thanks.


We actually have passive voice here " mainly by candles or gas.". Why discard C? Isn't C more parallel to the first part then A?
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by RonPurewal Tue Nov 06, 2007 5:33 am

C is bad because of the 'there were' construction. That construction is used, generally, in one of two ways:
(1) You're postulating the general existence of something: 'There are only two ways to solve this problem.'
(2) You're pointing out what is in a particular location: 'There are four cars in the street.'

You aren't doing either of these things here, so the construction is inappropriate.

Also, 'being' is pointless and redundant (note: 'being' is a HUGE red flag on GMAT problems; it's almost always redundant, and thus fatal to whichever answer choice it's in)
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What is wrong with Option B in this case

by rschunti Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:14 pm

What is wrong with Option B in this case?
B. electricity was in less than one percent of homes and lighting still
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by StaceyKoprince Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:12 am

"and lighting still" is the major problem.

First, that last bit is supposed to be saying something about homes - in homes, lighting was still mainly provided by candles or gas.

"electricity was in less than one percent of homes and lighting still provided mainly by candles or gas" doesn't explicitly tell me that the "lighting still provided mainly by candles or gas" was in homes. Also, a verb is missing - it would, at the least, have to say "lighting was still provided..."

Either issue is enough to ding the answer choice.
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by mclaren7 Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:27 pm

Dear moderators,

Would option D be correct if not for the part "there was"? --> should be "there were"?

For discussion purposes, would option D be correct if the answer starts with "there were"?

I figured the subject of the topic involves places (major cities and homes), thus the usage of "there" would be appropriate?

Thanks
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by RonPurewal Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:32 am

mclaren7 Wrote:Dear moderators,

Would option D be correct if not for the part "there was"? --> should be "there were"?

For discussion purposes, would option D be correct if the answer starts with "there were"?

I figured the subject of the topic involves places (major cities and homes), thus the usage of "there" would be appropriate?

Thanks
Lee


no, choice d still has major issues.

- 'there were' / 'there was' is a very common construction in spoken english, but its use in formal written language (such as the language of the gmat) is ordinarily restricted to discussion of the physical location of things (as in, those things literally were there, etc.) if it's not being used in this sense, it's considered wordy, because it can be replaced by more concise phrasing.
additionally, you only use this construction when you are actually asserting the presence of something/someone (where it is not already obvious). for instance, if you start a sentence with 'there are two cars in the street...', you're assuming that your reader does not already know that there are tow cars in the street. otherwise, you'd start with something like 'the two cars in the street are...'
example:
there were less than 1 percent of homes with electricity
this is bad. first of all, we aren't using the sentence to assert the presence of the homes - they're already understood to be there. (also, it's not really clear where 'there' is.) second, we can easily rephrase this to 'less than 1% of homes had electricity', which is much nicer and more concise.

- 'having' is used incorrectly. if you use a participle like this, you're introducing an adverb modifier, which modifies the action of the preceding clause. unfortunately, the main action word of the preceding clause is 'was' (from 'there was'), so the modifier doesn't make sense. even if you are generous enough to let the modifier modify 'had electricity', it still doesn't make sense (as the modifier doesn't give the way in which the houses had electricity).
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by Guest Tue Feb 26, 2008 2:44 am

Hi Ron,

Thank you for replying to my posts, I really appreciate it.

I would like to check where can I learn more information about "adverb modifiers" and their usage? I didn't know till you taught me --> "having" after a comma, the word "having" is acting as a adverb modifier.

Pretty disturbing for someone who has been learning GMAT for some time now.
Thanks
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by RonPurewal Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:00 am

Anonymous Wrote:Hi Ron,

Thank you for replying to my posts, I really appreciate it.

I would like to check where can I learn more information about "adverb modifiers" and their usage? I didn't know till you taught me --> "having" after a comma, the word "having" is acting as a adverb modifier.

Pretty disturbing for someone who has been learning GMAT for some time now.
Thanks
KH


here's a start:
http://flang1.kendall.mdc.edu/6/611/611 ... 11Lec2.htm

you can find tons of stuff if you hit up google and type "adverb modifiers" or "adverb clauses" (including the quotes).
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by patelbhavesh_09 Sat May 07, 2011 11:11 am

RonPurewal Wrote:There are at least the following 2 things wrong with choice E:

* The tense ('had still been') is wrong considering the context. 'Had still been' implies that lighting in homes was no longer provided by candles and gas at the time referenced in the sentence (past perfect means that event is over with and done, although it may still be in some way relevant to the CURRENT situation). But the sentence is supposed to say that home electricity was still being provided by these items.

* Misplaced modifier: The way this sentence is written, it implies that electricity is 'where lighting had still been provided ... blah blah blah'. But this description is clearly supposed to refer to homes.

I agree that choice A sounds pretty retarded, but it avoids these mistakes.


Hi Rone,

Choice A says :
"one percent of homes, where lighting was still provided mainly by candles or gas."

Isn't it change of meaning and wrong modifier issue? It is 99% homes, where lighting was still provided by candle or gas and not 1% houses.
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by RonPurewal Mon May 09, 2011 1:31 am

patelbhavesh_09 Wrote:Choice A says :
"one percent of homes, where lighting was still provided mainly by candles or gas."

Isn't it change of meaning and wrong modifier issue? It is 99% homes, where lighting was still provided by candle or gas and not 1% houses.


first --
OFFICIALLY CORRECT ANSWERS ARE CORRECT!
do not question officially correct answers!

far too many students on this forum make the mistake of questioning the correct answers; please note that doing so is a complete waste of your time and effort. i.e., exactly 0% of the time that you spend posting "isn't this official answer wrong?" is productive, and exactly 100% of that time is wasted.

"is this correct?" is NEVER a productive question to ask about one of GMAC's correct answers -- the answer is always yes.
"is this wrong?" / "is this X type of error?" is NEVER a productive question to ask about one of GMAC's correct answers -- the answer is always no.

instead, the questions you should be asking about correct official answers, if you don't understand them, are:
"why is this correct?"
"how does this work?"
"what understanding am i lacking that i need to understand this choice?"

this is a small, but hugely significant, change to your way of thinking -- you will suddenly find it much easier to understand the format, style, and conventions of the official problems if you dispose of the idea that they might be wrong.

--

in this sentence, the modifier "...where lighting was ..." refers only to homes, not to that whole phrase.

in general, these modifiers can refer to either
noun
or
noun + prepositional phrase
you have to use context to tell the difference definitively; in this case, the context is "homes", not "one percent of homes".
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by itsmeaakash3 Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:10 am

RonPurewal Wrote:There are at least the following 2 things wrong with choice E:

* The tense ('had still been') is wrong considering the context. 'Had still been' implies that lighting in homes was no longer provided by candles and gas at the time referenced in the sentence (past perfect means that event is over with and done, although it may still be in some way relevant to the CURRENT situation). But the sentence is supposed to say that home electricity was still being provided by these items.

* Misplaced modifier: The way this sentence is written, it implies that electricity is 'where lighting had still been provided ... blah blah blah'. But this description is clearly supposed to refer to homes.

I agree that choice A sounds pretty retarded, but it avoids these mistakes.


It is disappointing to see when all the answer options have problem and yet one is still required to pick one of them assuming that is the best option and is the least problematic.
The above question is from GMATprep. I think GMAC should have come out with a table listing problems in the ascending order of the severity. :(
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by RonPurewal Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:47 am

well... it's GMAC's playground, so GMAC makes the rules. it is what it is.