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Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by Samy Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:04 am

GMAT ETS Paper 8

Q11: There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing.


A. There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.
B. There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or
haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being
overfished.
C. There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not
for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing.
D. Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish,
which contributes to its depletion by being overfished.
E. Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching
monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished.

Ans is given as C. I feel C has a comparison issue and the which refers incorrectly to monkfish thereby changing the intended meaning.

Please help
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by StaceyKoprince Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:04 pm

Are you getting this directly from the official GMAC source, or have you gotten it through someone else? C is not a good answer. I'd go with A myself.

Aside from that, I don't recommend studying from the old paper tests. It's a totally different era and that company no longer even writes the test.
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by Samy Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:11 am

Ive downloaded this from somewhere on the net.
Thanks.
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by dbernst Thu Jul 12, 2007 5:10 am

I second Stacey on this one. C is riddled with errors, while A is the "cream of the crap." None of the choices, however, is good enough to be a credited response on a current Official GMAT.

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by Aishwary Bhashkar Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:28 am

Hi

Why couldn't E be the choice? Would you please explain the choice A and E in detail.

Thanks,

Aishwary
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by dbernst Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:44 pm

Aishwary, the primary problem with E is the comparison error: the sentence is trying to compare size limits for catching different types of fish; E, however, compares "catching" to "size limits" (and doesn't even do so clearly!).

As Stacey said in her original post, this is simply a poorly written question. I would disregard it, as it does little to benefit your GMAT preparation.

-dan
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by zhuyujun Thu Jul 02, 2009 9:31 am

This question is not out of date, actually it is found the latest GMAT PREP. The OA is A, unfortunately, and thus we have to dig it out.

I first threw A out becoz it is using "their depletion". What does their refer to? I thought it should refer to the monkfish here, so "it" should be more appropriate. That's why I chose C before.

Can anyone help on this? Thanks!
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by JonathanSchneider Sun Jul 05, 2009 1:55 pm

I'm also surprised that this would be on a current GMAT Prep test. However, the word "monkfish" can be singular or plural. Just like the word "fish."
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by sambusinessgroup Fri Jul 10, 2009 10:50 am

OA is A

I have a question. In choice A, How do you know what their refers to. It can be monkfish as well as it can be con and haddock.

Please reply soon.
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by sd Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:57 pm

Instructors, can somebody please throw light on this one. It is not so out of date.I took GMAT PREP 2 today (08/09/2009) and received the exact same question. I marked the answer as A. But I am curious to know, why others are wrong?

There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing. Here is my take though -


A. There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.
B. There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished. Comparison error. Compares size of monkish with cod and haddock
C. There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing. I debated between A and C on exam. But the word 'which' I read somewehere on the forum must refer to the noun before it. And here to the noun is monkfish. So I thought this has a modifier problem and picked A.
D. Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish,
which contributes to its depletion by being overfished. Comparison error. Same like B.
E. Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching
monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished. Comparsion error. Compares catching cod and haddock to legal limits on catching monkfish
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by vikrant.rajput.6 Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:54 am

I am not sure how A could be the correct answer.

There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.

Dont you think their incorrectly refers to the Monkfish here which is Singular?
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by anil00anil Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:24 pm

A.... No referent for "their"... mostly it should be "it"

B... comparing cod or haddock to size of monkfish

C.... Which cannot refer to a action... it must refer to the noun before it. here it refers to Monkfish...... but the reason is not monkfish ... but action of catching.....

D....comparing cod or haddock to size of monkfish.... and same which problem as above

E.... Wrong comparision...........

So answer with leasts mistakes is A...... and we can defend that Monkfish can be plural or sigular.....
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:17 am

vikrant.rajput.6 Wrote:I am not sure how A could be the correct answer.

There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.

Dont you think their incorrectly refers to the Monkfish here which is Singular?


nope. "monkfish" is plural.

in fact, it HAS TO be plural. since it acts just like "fish", i'll explain in terms of "fish" instead:
if "fish" is singular, it must be used WITH AN ARTICLE ("a", "the", etc.)
i saw a fish swimming beneath me --> singular (1 fish)
i saw fish swimming beneath me --> plural (multiple fish)

same deal here. since it's not "a monkfish" or "the monkfish", it's plural. end of story.

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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by RonPurewal Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:18 am

sd Wrote:Instructors, can somebody please throw light on this one. It is not so out of date.I took GMAT PREP 2 today (08/09/2009) and received the exact same question. I marked the answer as A. But I am curious to know, why others are wrong?

There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion through overfishing. Here is my take though -


A. There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.
B. There are no legal limits on the size of monkfish that can be caught, unlike cod or haddock, a circumstance that contributes to depleting them because they are being overfished. Comparison error. Compares size of monkish with cod and haddock
C. There are legal limits on the size of cod and haddock that can be caught, but not for monkfish, which contributes to its depletion through overfishing. I debated between A and C on exam. But the word 'which' I read somewehere on the forum must refer to the noun before it. And here to the noun is monkfish. So I thought this has a modifier problem and picked A.
D. Unlike cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching monkfish,
which contributes to its depletion by being overfished. Comparison error. Same like B.
E. Unlike catching cod and haddock, there are no legal size limits on catching
monkfish, contributing to their depletion because they are overfished. Comparsion error. Compares catching cod and haddock to legal limits on catching monkfish


good analysis of b, d, e.

for c:
* "which" refers to monkfish. that doesn't make sense in context.
* "its" is nonsense, since monkfish is plural in this sentence. (see the post directly above this one for an explanation of why this is so.)
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Re: Old GMAT Test Q, Paper 8

by direstraits007 Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:43 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
vikrant.rajput.6 Wrote:I am not sure how A could be the correct answer.

There are no legal limits, as there are for cod and haddock, on the size of
monkfish that can be caught, a circumstance that contributes to their depletion
through overfishing.

Dont you think their incorrectly refers to the Monkfish here which is Singular?


nope. "monkfish" is plural.

in fact, it HAS TO be plural. since it acts just like "fish", i'll explain in terms of "fish" instead:
if "fish" is singular, it must be used WITH AN ARTICLE ("a", "the", etc.)
i saw a fish swimming beneath me --> singular (1 fish)
i saw fish swimming beneath me --> plural (multiple fish)

same deal here. since it's not "a monkfish" or "the monkfish", it's plural. end of story.

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Ron,

I'm still confused with the above example.
For instance, if we say:

I found a pen on this table. --> singular.(1 pen)
I found the pen on this table --> singular. (1 specific pen)
I found pen on this table --> (Doesn't this mean, I found one pen on the table) ?
I found pens on this table. --> plural.

I checked in dictionary too:
pen(singular)<---> pens (plural)

Please explain this doubt Ron...I'm novice with these subtleties in english.

Thanks!

GeeMate.