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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by tim Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:22 am

Remember also that the test doesn't test on punctuation. There is no need at all on this test to know what a hyphen, n-dash, or m-dash does (or, heaven forbid, the difference between them).
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by RonPurewal Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:59 am

sdfsdfsdfs481 Wrote:Thank you Ron.

RonPurewal Wrote:that's a negative sign.


incidentally—
in any material that is carefully edited (e.g., anything on this exam), this distinction will be very easy to make.
• a negative sign is attached to the figure after it, with no space. BEFORE the negative sign there WILL be a space.
• all the other hyphens/dashes/etc. are used symmetrically. (either there will be spaces before AND after them, or else there will be no spaces at all.)

forum posts are obviously not 'carefully edited material', so that's the source of the issue here.
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by evelynho Sat Feb 20, 2016 1:22 am

RonPurewal Wrote:i have never met people as despicable as your friends.
--> correct
* BUT *
i have never met as despicable people as your friends.
--> incorrect.

by the way, this is not something i ever learned consciously, but it's something that i can figure out by considering enough examples.
this point is an excellent illustration of why it's important to develop an intuitive feeling for the way the language works. no one is going to learn -- or teach -- all of these things as "rules", but, by observing the language with an eye toward developing your intuition, you'll be able to figure a lot of them out.


Hi Ron,

I am still confused by the choice A, B and C. To rule out the wrong choice B and C,
I have no idea about the difference between A and B, from what I can see the only difference is "as low" V.S. "so low"?
Also, following the idiom - we can not have "as + adj. + plural n.", probably we can rule out C from A. But sorry I am confused again by the correct example below, is this an exception?
E.g., Manual High has as many students as Male High.
Please kindly help clarify.
Thank you.
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by RonPurewal Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:48 am

for those choices, i've already said basically everything i can say, here in this discussion thread.

for the construction "as + ___ + NOUN + as", the only 4 words i can come up with (for the blank) are "much", "many", "few", or "little". (there may be others, but i can't think of any others off the top of my head.)
i wrote about that in this thread:
https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... 24947.html
...but, since you're quoting the exact example i used there, i guess you've seen that thread already.
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by aflaamM589 Sun May 01, 2016 5:04 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
eggpain24 Wrote:or just because the construction "as (low) temperature as" is wrong for immediately following the preposition " at"


more generally, you can't have "as + adj + PLURAL + as...". this construction is only ok if the noun is singular.
e.g.
i have never met as despicable a person as your sister's boyfriend.
or
i have never met a person as despicable as your sister's boyfriend.
both correct

--

i have never met people as despicable as your friends.
--> correct
* BUT *
i have never met as despicable people as your friends.
--> incorrect.

by the way, this is not something i ever learned consciously, but it's something that i can figure out by considering enough examples.
this point is an excellent illustration of why it's important to develop an intuitive feeling for the way the language works. no one is going to learn -- or teach -- all of these things as "rules", but, by observing the language with an eye toward developing your intuition, you'll be able to figure a lot of them out.


Instruments placed on Table A can inflict as serious injuries as those on Table B--> this sentence is incorrect, right?
However,
Jack was inflicted as many injuries as was Jill--> correct, right?
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by RonPurewal Fri May 06, 2016 6:24 am

Instruments placed on Table A can inflict as serious injuries as those on Table B--> this sentence is incorrect, right?

yes, that's incorrect.
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by RonPurewal Fri May 06, 2016 6:24 am

Jack was inflicted as many injuries as was Jill--> correct, right?

"(was) inflicted" can't be used that way, but, the comparison part is fine.
so, for instance, Jack received as many injuries as Jill (did), or Jack sustained as many injuries as Jill (did), would be fine.
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by RAHULS852 Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:27 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
eggpain24 Wrote:or just because the construction "as (low) temperature as" is wrong for immediately following the preposition " at"


more generally, you can't have "as + adj + PLURAL + as...". this construction is only ok if the noun is singular.
e.g.
i have never met as despicable a person as your sister's boyfriend.
or
i have never met a person as despicable as your sister's boyfriend.
both correct

--

i have never met people as despicable as your friends.
--> correct
* BUT *
i have never met as despicable people as your friends.
--> incorrect.

by the way, this is not something i ever learned consciously, but it's something that i can figure out by considering enough examples.
this point is an excellent illustration of why it's important to develop an intuitive feeling for the way the language works. no one is going to learn -- or teach -- all of these things as "rules", but, by observing the language with an eye toward developing your intuition, you'll be able to figure a lot of them out.



Hi Ron/ Manhattan expert,

I am not able to understand this highlighted portion.
If above highlighted part is correct then how this part "Manual High has as many students as Male High" is fine.
Many students part is plural then this construction should not be fine.
Am I missing something ?

Regards,
Rahul
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by Sage Pearce-Higgins Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:37 am

you can't have "as + adj + PLURAL + as...". this construction is only ok if the noun is singular

Your example doesn't break the rule above. Note that 'many' in your example is not an adjective. Ron means that sentences like this one would be incorrect:
Manual High has as tall students as Male High
We'd need to phrase it like this:
Manual High has students as tall as those at Male High
or
The students at Manuel High are as tall as those at Male High
You can follow the rule I quoted from Ron if the noun is singular. For example:
I have as friendly a dog as you do.
But not:
I have as friendly dogs as you do.
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by RAHULS852 Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:00 am

Got it. Thanks Sage :)
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Re: PREP SC : Mixed with an equal part of water, ethylene glycol

by Sage Pearce-Higgins Thu Mar 21, 2019 7:38 am

You're welcome.