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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by liu1993918 Thu Mar 26, 2015 4:03 am

In my views, C is also wrong due to verb tense. "Need" should be "needed", because "reduced" and "1988" indicate this happened in the past.
Am I right?
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by RonPurewal Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:51 am

liu1993918 Wrote:In my views, C is also wrong due to verb tense. "Need" should be "needed", because "reduced" and "1988" indicate this happened in the past.
Am I right?


correct (as indicated in post #2).
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by ysyanshi Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:35 am

Hi Ron, can I confirm that there is nothing wrong with "in producing" and "for their producing of" in choice D and E?
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by RonPurewal Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:08 am

neither of those choices contains "in producing".

"for their producing of" is very clearly worse / less efficient / wordier than the alternative, so you can eliminate it. (https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... ml#p118104)
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by ysyanshi Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:19 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:neither of those choices contains "in producing".


Thank you for pointing it out, Ron. Would please tell me what's wrong with "in producing" in Choice C?
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by ysyanshi Fri Jan 15, 2016 8:20 pm

RonPurewal Wrote:
"for their producing of" is very clearly worse / less efficient / wordier than the alternative, so you can eliminate it. (https://www.manhattanprep.com/gmat/foru ... ml#p118104)


Thank you Ron, that's very helpful!
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by RonPurewal Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:17 pm

you're welcome.
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by thanghnvn Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:59 am

A is wrong because it is not clear who need the time . simply
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by aflaamM589 Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:34 am

Hello Ron.
Can E also be cancelled out, apart from tense issue, on ground that their is redundant?As producing is the verbing form, it takes the subject doing verbing. So no need to repeat the doer.
Is this reasoning valid?
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by RonPurewal Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:51 am

aflaamM589 Wrote:Hello Ron.
Can E also be cancelled out, apart from tense issue, on ground that their is redundant?As producing is the verbing form, it takes the subject doing verbing. So no need to repeat the doer.
Is this reasoning valid?
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since there are OTHER choices that DON'T contain that use of "their", yes, i'd say that's a safe elimination.

remember—you should never try to judge "wordiness" or "inefficiency" on the basis of individual sentences. you should only make those kinds of judgments by COMPARING choices to each other.
if you suspect that some construction is wordy/inefficient, then there MUST be some other answer choice that is less wordy / more efficient. if there isn't, then, just ignore that aspect and keep looking for other things.
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by aflaamM589 Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:40 am

Thanks for answering .
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by aflaamM589 Wed Feb 24, 2016 4:46 am

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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by tim Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:48 am

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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by aflaamM589 Sat Jun 04, 2016 10:38 pm

Hello ron/tim
Allow me to ask another question:
RonPurewal Wrote:first of all, why don't you have an answer to this problem? if this problem is from the GMATPREP software (which is the only source allowed on this particular folder), then you should have the official answer.


the correct answer should be (d), actually.

here are very brief explanations of what is wrong with the other choices:

(a)
"so that" is wordy, but also doesn't make literal sense here -- "X so that Y" implies that X is an action taken toward the goal Y. i.e., i studied hard so that i could get a good grade.
needing time is not an action taken toward a goal, so this doesn't make sense.


why can't it be taken as,
reducing the time is an action taken toward a goal

New equipment and other improvements reduced the amount of time"”from eleven hours in 1982 to six in 1988"”needed by workers so that they could produce a ton of steel
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Re: SC: New equipment and other improvements

by RonPurewal Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:55 am

that interpretation implies that "new equipment" is capable of formulating a goal, and of taking actions toward that goal.
nope.