SC: Studies of test scores show that

[NMencia09]

Studies of test scores show that watching television has a markedly positive effect on children whose parents speak English as a second language, as compared to those whose native language is English.
to those whose native language is English

with children whose native language is English

with those who are native English speakers

to children whose parents do not

with children whose parents are native English speakers

answer is E.

Is there a rule for Compared TO versus Compared WITH when comparing like vs unlike things?
Answer says D doesnt work because its ambiguous whether or no the parents are native English speakers, but wouldnt that be the implication if you are making this comparison?

[davetzulin]

Studies of test scores show that watching television has a markedly positive effect on children whose parents speak English as a second language, as compared to those whose native language is English.
to those whose native language is English

with children whose native language is English

with those who are native English speakers

to children whose parents do not

with children whose parents are native English speakers

answer is E.

Is there a rule for Compared TO versus Compared WITH when comparing like vs unlike things?
Answer says D doesnt work because its ambiguous whether or no the parents are native English speakers, but wouldnt that be the implication if you are making this comparison?

i just finished my CAT 5 and also chose D on this answer.

Studies of test scores show that watching television has a markedly positive effect on children whose parents speak English as a second language, as compared to children whose parents do not

I agree with all the answer explanations actually, but I still wanted clarification. In the SC guide where they mention this type of eliding they never gave an example where not only was the action being elided, but the modifier of that action

whose parents speak english as a second language

to children whose parents do not [speak english] [as a second language]

so what exactly is allowed to be "understood" in the comparison? I know the verb "speak" is, and according to the answer explanation the object of the verb speak "english" is.... so can we assume any subsequent modifiers are not understood?

thanks

[tim]

"compared to" and "compared with" are both acceptable. the problem with D is that all we know is the parents don't speak English as a second language; we don't know if they speak English as a first language or not at all..

[rakeshd347]

"compared to" and "compared with" are both acceptable. the problem with D is that all we know is the parents don't speak English as a second language; we don't know if they speak English as a first language or not at all..

Hi Tim

I just did my Manhattan test 4 today and I chose D in this question.
In answer E I have a doubt though the explanation given the test is good enough to understand the error I did. In E it compared the children whose parents speak English as a second language With the children whose parents are native english speaker.

Can you give some example because this question came across to me twice and from the classes books and even in RON's study hall what I have learnt I chose D both times. I might chose E this time but still the logic is not clear here to me at least.

I highly appreciate your help.

Thanks
Rakesh

[RonPurewal]

"compared to" and "compared with" are both acceptable. the problem with D is that all we know is the parents don't speak English as a second language; we don't know if they speak English as a first language or not at all..

Hi Tim

I just did my Manhattan test 4 today and I chose D in this question.
In answer E I have a doubt though the explanation given the test is good enough to understand the error I did. In E it compared the children whose parents speak English as a second language With the children whose parents are native english speaker.

Can you give some example because this question came across to me twice and from the classes books and even in RON's study hall what I have learnt I chose D both times. I might chose E this time but still the logic is not clear here to me at least.

I highly appreciate your help.

Thanks
Rakesh

(d) has the wrong meaning.
first, it's not even clear to start with... do not what, exactly?
given what's there, the only possible interpretation is ... do not speak English as a second language, but that's not a sensible interpretation.

There aren't going to be "rules" that will help you ascertain the intended meaning of a sentence; for that, you have to use normal intuition/common sense.

[andrewthai2000]

Wouldn’t choice E violate parallelism, though?
Whose parents [speak English as a second language] ... whose parents [are native English speakers]
I was thinking the second section needs to have a more active verb, such as “speak” or “do” to be parallel with the first "speak", but instead it has the word “are”.

Thanks.

[RonPurewal]

Wouldn’t choice E violate parallelism, though?
Whose parents [speak English as a second language] ... whose parents [are native English speakers]
I was thinking the second section needs to have a more active verb, such as “speak” or “do” to be parallel with the first "speak", but instead it has the word “are”.

Thanks.

in terms of mechanics, any verb is equivalent to any other verb.

[RonPurewal]

a somewhat more complete response:

• don't hypothesize things that aren't in the answer choices.
why bother?

• there's no "more active" replacement for ...are native speakers. (anything you might try to make up—e.g., "speak english natively"—will be awkward and stylistically unacceptable.)

• most importantly, if you have verb || verb, then you've satisfied the mechanical aspects of parallelism.
the differences between verbs, and/or between tenses, are 100.00000% based on context / intended meaning. grammar has no influence whatsoever on any such choice.