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The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones

by dddanny2006 Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:22 am

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Published since 1851,the founders of the New York times were Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience

(A)Published since 1851,the founders of the New York times were Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience

(B)Published since 1851,Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience,were founders of the New York Times

(C)Published since 1851,the New York times was founded by George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience,and Henry Jarvis Raymond.

(D)The New York times was founded by Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience,and published since 1851

(E)The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience,the New York times has been published since 1851

Options A and B can be eliminated because of obvious modifier errors.Now I'm left with Options C,D and E.In option D since 'published' is a participial modifier,it should have been next to the noun(NYTimes) it modifies,but since its far Option D can be eliminated too.

Now we're left with option C and E.

Im puzzled now,but I think 'who had no previous journalism experience' can help me to rule out option E because we don't know who doesnt have the experience.Is this analysis of mine correct?

Also could Options D and E be ruled out solely on the 'who had no previous journalism experience'??.

Can there be a sentence in which we have : NewYork Times founded by X and Y,who had no experience

Who doesn't have the experience?Is it Y or both?If it's both cant it be "both of whom had no exp"


In option E we have

"The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones,who had no previous journalism experience,the New York times has been published since 1851."

How is the above sentence different from -

"Using the latest technology,the engineer identified the problem."

On what grounds was option E eliminated?

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Re: The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones

by RonPurewal Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:14 pm

This problem is a complete rip-off of an OG problem that begns with "Published in Harlem..."
So, you're better off ignoring this problem and studying that one.


dddanny2006 Wrote:In option D since 'published' is a participial modifier,it should have been next to the noun(NYTimes) it modifies,but since its far Option D can be eliminated too.


No.
In choice D, that's not a modifier.

Eight feet tall and 24 feet wide, a soccer goal is very difficult to defend.
Here, "8 feet tall and 24 feet wide" is a modifier.

A soccer goal is eight feet tall and 24 feet wide.
No modifier. It's the other half of the sentence.

Not sure why you're putting "eliminated" in italics. Is there a special significance?
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Re: The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones

by RonPurewal Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:14 pm

Im puzzled now,but I think 'who had no previous journalism experience' can help me to rule out option E because we don't know who doesnt have the experience.Is this analysis of mine correct?


That's a valid complaint because there's another choice that specifies more clearly who lacked experience.

Don't forget that these are multiple-choice problems. If something isn't done differently in another choice, you don't have to worry about it.

Also could Options D and E be ruled out solely on the 'who had no previous journalism experience'??.


Sure, but largely because there's another choice in which the meaning is more clear.
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Re: The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones

by RonPurewal Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:15 pm

Can there be a sentence in which we have : NewYork Times founded by X and Y,who had no experience


It seems you're missing a verb and/or some punctuation here, but I can't tell without more context. Go ahead and try to write out the whole sentence that you have in mind.

Who doesn't have the experience?Is it Y or both?If it's both cant it be "both of whom had no exp"


No. You won't see "both have no X". Instead, you'll see "neither have X".
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Re: The founders being Henry Jarvis Raymond and George Jones

by RonPurewal Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:16 pm

On what grounds was option E eliminated?


"The founders being..." is not a valid construction. I.e., you can't write a modifier that way.