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what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by hiphopdidi7623 Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:31 am

For instance

Researchers in Germany have unearthed 400,000-year-old wooden spears from what appears to be an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, stunning evidence that human ancestors systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed.

I am confused with the role of the clause "stunning evidence that...."

What role does the clause play, participle clause or appositive?

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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:55 am

Is it possible to substitute "stunning evidence" for a noun earlier in the sentence? If so, it is an appositive. On the other hand, if something is actually stunning the evidence, i.e. causing the evidence to be stunned, then you have a "participle clause" or, more generically, a modifier..
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by hiphopdidi7623 Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:33 am

tim Wrote:Is it possible to substitute "stunning evidence" for a noun earlier in the sentence? If so, it is an appositive. On the other hand, if something is actually stunning the evidence, i.e. causing the evidence to be stunned, then you have a "participle clause" or, more generically, a modifier..



thank you, tim

What if the "evidence" represents to the entire event of the main clause, is that possible?
(I mean an "abstract noun" used to depict the precedent event.)


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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:23 pm

sorry, i should have clarified, yes that's okay too. if it is referring back to something in the sense of RENAMING it, then it is an appositive. the alternative is the absurd scenario where something stuns the evidence..
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by klvsajay Sun May 27, 2012 3:17 am

i may be in-correct...

but the modifier "stunning evidence..." require a noun to be precede it?
eg: something like "...,a discovery/finding that is stunning evidence...".

how is it allowed to stand on its own? is this the case with all appositives? could you please explain with example of modifiers that do require a noun to precede it and those, like the above, that do not.

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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Sun May 27, 2012 3:23 am

all appositives require a noun to refer to. does that answer your question?
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by depti Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:06 am

Hi tim

Researchers in Germany have unearthed 400,000-year-old wooden spears from what appears to be an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, stunning evidence that human ancestors systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed.

IN this question stunning evidence is referred to "wooden spears"
thats why here it z a appositive
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:15 am

couldn't tell if you have a question, but i agree with your observation..
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by sachin.w Sat Jan 19, 2013 3:43 am

Hi ,
Replacing stunning evidence with wooden spears leads us to the following sentence which in my opinion doesn't make sense..

Researchers in Germany have unearthed 400,000-year-old wooden spears from what appears to be an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, wooden spears that human ancestors systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed.


The actual meaning of sentence is that we have stunning evidence that bla bla..
but by replacing it with wooden spears, that intended meaning is lost..
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:32 am

you're doing it backwards. read what i said. :) take out a noun earlier in the sentence and replace it with "stunning evidence"..
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by sachin.w Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:26 am

Researchers in Germany have unearthed 400,000-year-old stunning evidence from what appears to be an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, stunning evidence that human ancestors systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed.



I get it now. .we gotto replace the appositive with a noun in the earlier part of the sentence
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:41 pm

my pleasure..
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by sharif10.ais.du2004 Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:06 pm

sachin.w Wrote:Researchers in Germany have unearthed 400,000-year-old stunning evidence from what appears to be an ancient lakeshore hunting ground, stunning evidence that human ancestors systematically hunted big game much earlier than believed.



I get it now. .we gotto replace the appositive with a noun in the earlier part of the sentence
Thanks tim


I think it should be replace "the noun with appositive"
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Re: what are the differences between "-ing" and "appositive"?

by tim Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:46 am

i hope we all understood what was meant.. :)
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