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Why is this statement correct ?

by Aquamarine Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:35 pm


"The firm's executives had supported the eco-initiative until the financial crisis struck and they re-evaluated. "


This is from Foundations of GMAT verbal, page 48.

The two parallel parts are supposed to be 'struck' and 're-evaluated'. However logically they have a cause and effect relationship. Financially crisis striking must have caused re-evaluation. Why are these two verbs being made parallel ?

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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by Willy Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:19 am

ishitasharan Wrote:
"The firm's executives had supported the eco-initiative until the financial crisis struck and they re-evaluated. "


This is from Foundations of GMAT verbal, page 48.

The two parallel parts are supposed to be 'struck' and 're-evaluated'. However logically they have a cause and effect relationship. Financially crisis striking must have caused re-evaluation. Why are these two verbs being made parallel ?

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Ishita


sentence as written is correct.

Executives stopped supporting eco-initiative because of two reasons - financial crisis and re-evaluation of their plan/initiative.
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by RonPurewal Fri Sep 07, 2012 8:03 pm

ishitasharan Wrote:
"The firm's executives had supported the eco-initiative until the financial crisis struck and they re-evaluated. "


This is from Foundations of GMAT verbal, page 48.

The two parallel parts are supposed to be 'struck' and 're-evaluated'. However logically they have a cause and effect relationship. Financially crisis striking must have caused re-evaluation. Why are these two verbs being made parallel ?

Thanks
Ishita


hi,
parallel structures are often used for sequential events, regardless of the relationship between those events -- even if they are cause and effect, as you have correctly noted here.
for instance,
The last-place finisher was Smith, who had been winning the race until he tripped and fell in the last 200 meters.
this is the same sort of relationship -- obviously, this particular runner fell because he tripped -- but a parallel structure is still ok for the sequence of events.
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by vivs.gupta Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:19 am

RonPurewal Wrote:
ishitasharan Wrote:
"The firm's executives had supported the eco-initiative until the financial crisis struck and they re-evaluated. "


This is from Foundations of GMAT verbal, page 48.

The two parallel parts are supposed to be 'struck' and 're-evaluated'. However logically they have a cause and effect relationship. Financially crisis striking must have caused re-evaluation. Why are these two verbs being made parallel ?

Thanks
Ishita



Can't we read this sentence as two independent clauses:

[The firm's executives had supported the eco-initiative until the financial crisis struck] and [they re-evaluated].



hi,
parallel structures are often used for sequential events, regardless of the relationship between those events -- even if they are cause and effect, as you have correctly noted here.
for instance,
The last-place finisher was Smith, who had been winning the race until he tripped and fell in the last 200 meters.
this is the same sort of relationship -- obviously, this particular runner fell because he tripped -- but a parallel structure is still ok for the sequence of events.
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by Willy Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:23 am

No.

See there is no COMMA before AND so we can't read this sentence as two independent clauses.

Remember COMMA + FANBOYS rule?
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by vivs.gupta Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:44 am

willigetmylifeback Wrote:No.

See there is no COMMA before AND so we can't read this sentence as two independent clauses.

Remember COMMA + FANBOYS rule?



I think comma before "and" joining two independent clauses is optional
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by Willy Sun Sep 23, 2012 7:25 am

vivs.gupta Wrote:
willigetmylifeback Wrote:No.

See there is no COMMA before AND so we can't read this sentence as two independent clauses.

Remember COMMA + FANBOYS rule?



I think comma before "and" joining two independent clauses is optional


No, COMMA before "and" joining two independent clauses is not optional.

I think you are confusing with parallel constructions.

e.g.

I love Eva, and Era loves Willy.

I love Eva and Era.

Both sentences are correct. First one is an example of independent clauses connected with COMMA + AND.

Second example is of parallelism. You can omit COMMA before AND here.
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by vivs.gupta Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:55 pm

willigetmylifeback Wrote:
vivs.gupta Wrote:
willigetmylifeback Wrote:No.

See there is no COMMA before AND so we can't read this sentence as two independent clauses.

Remember COMMA + FANBOYS rule?



I think comma before "and" joining two independent clauses is optional


No, COMMA before "and" joining two independent clauses is not optional.

I think you are confusing with parallel constructions.

e.g.

I love Eva, and Era loves Willy.

I love Eva and Era.

Both sentences are correct. First one is an example of independent clauses connected with COMMA + AND.

Second example is of parallelism. You can omit COMMA before AND here.


the following info is from chapter 4 of sentence correction guide.

"if you join 2 clauses with and, you can put an optional comma before the and.
Doing so is especially recommended when the clauses are long, independent, or both".
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Re: Why is this statement correct ?

by tim Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:13 pm

this is not referring to INDEPENDENT clauses, which ALWAYS require a comma to separate them..
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