Women are expected to be the majority

[tim]

"wordy" is NEVER EVER a reason to eliminate a SC answer!

[thanghnvn]

Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

Thank you, Tim, I am confused

why in D, "placing" can not take the tense of "will be" and make D correct.

is it possible that "comma+doing" show present tense while the main clause is in future tense. if this is true, comma+doing dose not alway takes the tense of the main clause.

pls help.

[jlucero]

Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing more women in leadership position in politics and business.
A Women are expected to be the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place
C The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, which will ultimately place
D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing
E It is expected for the women to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, which will ultimately place

Thank you, Tim, I am confused

why in D, "placing" can not take the tense of "will be" and make D correct.

is it possible that "comma+doing" show present tense while the main clause is in future tense. if this is true, comma+doing dose not alway takes the tense of the main clause.

pls help.

It's fine to have clauses that are in different tenses, but the meaning needs to be 100% clear. Think about when the two events in this sentence take place. Here's an analogy:

Robots will take over the world, something that will eliminate humans.
Robots will take over the world, something eliminating humans.

Your argument is that the second sentence IMPLIES that this will happen in the future, but the first sentence STATES that it will happen in the future. Strike against 2. But then couple that with this:

Robots will take over the world, something that will eliminate humans.
It is expected that robots will take over the world, something eliminating humans.

Now the "something eliminating humans" could be robots taking over the world OR the fact that it is expected that robots will take over the world. This is the second strike against D:

It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing...

[thanghnvn]

Thank you Lucero, but pls continue to help me

I do not understand why, in D, "placing" can not take time of 'will"

"doing" or comma+doing takes tense of main clause. This is rule. is that right.

if there are 2 tenses in D, "is expected" and "will be", doing will take tense of which, pls specify

[jlucero]

Thank you Lucero, but pls continue to help me

I do not understand why, in D, "placing" can not take time of 'will"

"doing" or comma+doing takes tense of main clause. This is rule. is that right.

if there are 2 tenses in D, "is expected" and "will be", doing will take tense of which, pls specify

Your meaning is possible and makes sense to you, but the fact that there is a different possible meaning, means this sentence is ambiguous. Correct answer choices should be clear in terms of meaning:

The CEO is expected to be fired, leading to changes (are these changes going to happen now to save the CEO's job or in the future after he/she is fired?)

The CEO is expected to be fired, a firing that will lead to changes (clear, unambiguous meaning- the changes will happen after the CEO is fired)

[thanghnvn]

great, thank you Lucero.

let me interpretet myself.

Women are expected to be //the majority of student entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing// more women in leadership position in politics and business
B The majority of students entering law school this fall are expected to be women, a trend that will ultimately place

D It is expected that the majority of students entering law school this fall will be women, a trend ultimately placing

"placing" in D grammatically can take the tense of one of 2 previous clauses so it can take the tense of "is" or "will" . This make "placing" in D ambiguous.

in B, "trend" in future is clear.

is my thinking correct? Lucero, pls, confirm, Thank you

[jlucero]

That's correct.

[thanghnvn]

THANK you lucero

"doing" can take the tense of one of 2 previous clauses and can be ambiguous.

very hard question.

[tim]

let us know if there are any further questions on this one..

[duyng9989]

Hi.

I have a question about absolute phrase:

I know that absolute phrase is the form:

Clause, Abstract noun + That ...

But it can also be in V-ing form.

Eg: The singer sang the song with intense emotion, her voice moving the audience to tears.

But according to this problem here. I realize that if we use the V-ing rather than "That" form, the tense in absolute phrase must be the same in the main clause.

Eg:

Women are expected to be the majority of students entering law school this fall, a trend ultimately placing => Wrong!

Therefore, if we want to use absolute phrase in V-ing form, the tense in absolute phrase modifier must be the same with the main clause?

Please confirm

Thank you

[tim]

As usual, you seem to be placing way too much emphasis on what things are called and not enough on how they are used in the sentence. You do seem to be asking a question about verb tense though, but I can't quite tell what your question is. Can you be more clear about your question and what example(s) raised the question in your mind?

[thanghnvn]

D is wrong because D used 2 clauses- "expected" and "will be"-


. B uses only one clause and, so, is better than D is

[RonPurewal]

D is wrong because D used 2 clauses- "expected" and "will be"-


. B uses only one clause and, so, is better than D is

One clause is not necessarily better than two.

* First -- If that were a "rule", think for a second about its consequences. Essentially, you'd be saying that any complex sentence is inferior to any simple sentence. Clearly that's not true.

* Also note that, in the immediately following part of the same two answer choices, the reverse is true: (b) uses another verb (will ... place) where (d) uses only a modifier (placing).

[HM537]

i have a problem about "comma+ing modifier". in choice D, is comma+ing modifies "will be" or "is expected"?
i think "comma+ing" should modify the closest action in the main clause, right?

[RonPurewal]

choice D does not contain a 'comma + __ing' modifier.