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Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by ramanalokanathan Thu Oct 08, 2009 10:16 pm

I saw this problem in gmatclub forum. Few questions:

1. Is there an easier / straight forward way to solve this problem
2. What is the general strategy to setup the equations for "working together" problems like this.

Appreciate your response.

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It takes printer A 4 more minutes than printer B to print 40 pages. Working together, the two printers can print 50 pages in 6 minutes. How long will it take printer A to print 80 pages?

A. 12
B. 18
C. 20
D. 24
E. 30
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by jatharnikhil Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:03 am

Hello,

Lets consider B takes 'X' minutes to print 40 pages.
Then A takes 'X+4' minutes to print 40 pages.

then, per pages per minute by A => 40/(X+4), B => 40/(X).
Add both, then pages per minute by both A, B => 40/(X+4) + 40/(X).

Now, in 6 min both print 50 pages. [ 40/(X+4) + 40/(X) ] * 6 = 50.

calculate value of X.

Let me know if you know any better method.

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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by Ben Ku Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:34 am

The rate in a work problem is expressed as "job done / time". In this case, if it takes printer B x minutes to print 40 pages, then the rates for the printers are:
A: 40 / (x + 4)
B: 40 / x
A+B: 50 /6
When we have two things working together, we can add their rates:
[40 / (x + 4)] + (40 / x) = (50 / 6)

Solving this, you get x = 8 (we can rule out -2.5)
So it takes printer A 12 minutes to print 40 pages, it will take it 24 minutes to print 80 pages. The answer is (D).
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by aliag916 Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:08 am

Hello,
I understand the above solution, but how to arrive at x=8?
When I solve the equation I get : 5x^2 -28x - 96 = 0
Can anyone pls explain how to get x = 8 from the above.

Thank u!
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by RonPurewal Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:29 am

aliag916 Wrote:Hello,
I understand the above solution, but how to arrive at x=8?
When I solve the equation I get : 5x^2 -28x - 96 = 0
Can anyone pls explain how to get x = 8 from the above.

Thank u!


Well, if you factor that equation, it factors to (x - 8) times (5x + 12).
But, GMAC will not ask you to do that kind of factoring.
In fact, I've never seen a factoring problem with a number other than "1" attached to x^2, unless it's some "special" pattern, e.g., 9x^2 - 25y^2 = (3x - 5y)(3x + 5y).

If I saw this problem, I would just guess integer values of x, and feed them into the original equation (the one with the fractions in it, not the quadratic).
I'd start with factors of 40, because you're dividing 40 by things on the left.
Once I got to 8 -- which wouldn't take long, if I were trying factors of 40 -- I'd get 40/12 + 40/8 = 25/3. That's 10/3 + 5 = 25/3, which is a true statement. Done.
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by RonPurewal Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:42 am

In any case -- Further discussion of this problem is not allowed until the ORIGINAL SOURCE is posted.

Forums are not original sources, so "I saw this problem on gmatclub forum" is not an acceptable citation. We need original authorship, please.

If anyone knows the source, please cite it. If not, we'll eventually have to lock or delete the thread.
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by aliag916 Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:55 am

Thank u! very clearly explained.
This is from one of Ron's class sessions.
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by RonPurewal Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:18 pm

aliag916 Wrote:Thank u! very clearly explained.
This is from one of Ron's class sessions.


This exact problem?
Hmm...
I don't remember it, but, then again, I'm really bad at remembering things.

What was the date and/or the title of the session?

Thanks.
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by aliag916 Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:48 am

It's Feb 2, 2012 Rates Problem. Yes, it's the exact same problem and you do say that its not an official problem.
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Re: Work Problem: It takes printer A 4 more mins than Printer B

by RonPurewal Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:23 am

aliag916 Wrote:It's Feb 2, 2012 Rates Problem. Yes, it's the exact same problem and you do say that its not an official problem.


Hmm. Thanks.