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PT18, S1, G3 - Greenburg has exactly five

by yahoo Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:22 pm

I'm having such a terrible time with this game! Can someone please provide the setup? Thanks
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Re: PT18, S1, G3 - Greenburg has exactly five

by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:53 pm

Welcome to the mess of a game that I've heard plenty of people describe as the ice cream cone game. I think you'll see why when you see the setup!

Good luck. And if you need any help with the questions, just let me know.
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Re: PT18, S1, G3 - Greenburg has exactly five

by yahoo Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:37 pm

Thank you! I'm still having trouble with a few of the questions.

14: is the answer 4 because R can go to T,G,P, & U?

18: I am totally confused on this one. Couldn't they stop at U and R? or since Q-U is down, U-R is not possible?

Also, any tips on how to come up with this diagram if confused on the exam?
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Re: PT18, S1, G3 - Greenburg has exactly five

by ManhattanPrepLSAT1 Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:32 pm

Happy to help!

14. You're exactly right. T, G, P, and U are all reachable without making any intermediate stops.

18. This one is tough. But because U -- Q is blocked in both directions some of the possible routes using the fewest intermediate stops are not available. The fewest number of intermediate stops is two but that still leaves the following routes.

1. S -- T -- R -- P
2. S -- T -- Q -- P
3. S -- U -- R -- P

(A) the 3rd route uses neither F nor T
(B) the 1st route uses neither G nor U
(C) the 3rd route uses neither Q nor T
(D) the 1st route uses neither Q nor U
(E) correct! every route has either an R or T or both

Also, you're not likely to see a game like this on the LSAT as games that rely on maps aren't frequent on today's LSAT. However, there was a game in 2003 that also relied on a map, so it's not impossible. If you see that you're being asked to connect things with lines or place things into areas like

PT15, S4, G2 - The country of Zendu

then you might want to consider drawing out a diagram that reflects the scenario visually.

Hope that helps!
 
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Re: PT18, S1, G3 - Greenburg has exactly five

by cyruswhittaker Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:14 pm

I must be missing something for question 15 because I don't see how it has to be Q.

Couldn't we have G, R, T, S and G, R, U, S? Or am I interpreting the game wrong to say that a traveler couldn't get on/off part of L1?
 
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Re: PT18, S1, G3 - Greenburg has exactly five

by cyruswhittaker Mon Jan 03, 2011 8:44 pm

I'm still not understanding why the answer to number 15 is Q. Can anyone explain? Thanks!
 
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Re: Diagram

by dylancox_12 Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:19 pm

I think your problem lies in the part of the question that says "taking the fewest possible subway lines". Going from G-R-T-S or G-R-U-S, although they're just as little stops as G-Q-U-S (the route I mapped out), the latter route only has us taking the L4 and L1 lines. To take G-R-T-S you have to make use of 3 lines (L4, L2 and L1). Likewise with G-R-U-S, you have to make use of 3 lines (L4, L3 and L1).