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Diagram

by smalek Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:53 pm

I'm just beginning this game. I accept that 0-3-3 and 1-2-3 are options, but why can't 2-0-4 (that is, 2R, 0S, 4T) ALSO be an option?

The instructions do not say that each category (R, S, and T) must be selected from.

Also, I am assuming that multiple combos of the above will also work?
0-3-3 (and 3-0-3)
1-2-3 (and 2-1-3 & 3-1-2)
and in the case of 2-0-4, that is the only arrangement that will work with those numbers given the rules.

NOTE: For all the above, the number combinations correspond to R, S, T respectively.

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Re: Diagram

by smalek Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:42 pm

For any of you who had the same question. I have discovered why 2-0-4 cannot work. I tested for if T=4...here's what happens.

If T=4, then X&Y are in, and then if W is in, then unfortunately Z must be out. So that tells us that all 4 elements CANNOT be in T. And just for the sake of it, if we put the 4th element (Z) in, we see that W must be out, so again, there is no possible way that T=4.

Now if T=3, then again X&Y are in and who else is in? Either and only, Z (which would cast W out) or if W is in (Z must be out). That is why only up to 3 elements per stone can be in and 2-0-4 (where T=4) does NOT work.

If on test day I had a similar question, that is, if 2-0-4 worked, I would quickly do two things:

#1 Look at the diagram to see if there were any arrows within one category (R,S, or T) where the arrows were crossing each other (that is where if something was in, the other thing must be out). If so, then it indicates that the MAX number in that category is not possible.

#2 If at all in doubt I would quickly redraw the IN/OUT t-diagram to see what would happen if T=4.
 
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Re: Diagram

by QIAOH648 Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:42 am

2-0-4 must be false because the 3rd run said that W and Z cannot be selected together. So either 0-3-3 or 1-2-3 or 2-1-3 or 3-1-2.

Hope it works ~~

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Why is D?????
 
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Re: Diagram

by Laura Damone Sat Apr 11, 2020 7:07 pm

I see you posted in the forum for that question as well, so I'll answer there!
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Re: Diagram

by ReginaP412 Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:25 pm

Trying to figure out what up front inferences we're able to make before diving into the Qs -- aside from the explicit given rules and the following numerical distribution.

This game really ate into my time -- trying to see if there are any upfront inferences that I am missing?

R3 - S1 - T2
R0 - S3 - T3
R1 - S2 - T3


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Re: Diagram

by Misti Duvall Thu Mar 25, 2021 5:23 pm

Hi! The only other thing I noted upfront was that W and Z can't be in together, which means that if you have 3T it's either XYW or XYZ. And, for the numeric distribution, I think it's easier to just note the general distribution possibilities (330 or 321) rather than break it down by subgroup, which eats a lot of time.

Sometimes we don't see a lot of upfront inferences, which is ok. Note what you do have and use the time to go into the questions.

Hope this helps.
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