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Diagram

by RogerD345 Thu Oct 24, 2019 11:12 am

Can we get an detailed Set-Up explanation for this Logic Q? I believe many people are dying to see how Professionals dismantle this LG.
 
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Re: Diagram

by LindsayN728 Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:41 pm

This game took me three tries to REALLY understand what the hell is happening.
Once you have a firm grasp of the rules, it's actually not that bad!

We know that there is Solomon, Tabitha, Ursula, Will and Zepi who each MUST arrange 4 individual flowers from which they select G, H, L, R. Each person uses 3 types of flowers.

So lets split Solomon, Tabitha, Ursula, Will and Zepi up into charts:

S: _ _ _
T: _ _ _
U: _ _ _
W: _ _ _
Z: _ _ _

This is where it gets super confusing, but remember, they must choose 3 different types of flowers out of the 4 choices (GHLR) and all of them are suppose to comprise of 4 strands of flowers to form a bouquet.

Essentially, for example, a bouquet could look like (2 H, 1 R, 1 L) = 4.

The rules get super friggin' weird and I didn't understand the "Solomon and no one else uses two roses/ Zepi and no one else uses hya.." until question 17 and it finally clicked!

It's telling you that ONLY SOLOMON can have 2 roses and no one else. That inference tells us that Solomon MUST have 2 more flowers of 2 different types for it to fulfill 3 different types of flowers to comprise up to 4 strands of flowers. This goes the same for the ZEPI Rule.

Once you've made these inferences, you can fill in the rest of the chart and it becomes, much, much, clearer.

Your chart might/could look like this:

S: RR, __, __
T: H, @least1 G, __
U: R, @least 1 H, __
W: GG, __, __
Z: H, R, ___, ___

1 person x 2 Lilies

Make some inferences from here - think about it, let's say, since Zepi is the only person who can have 1 H and 1 R, that MUST mean that NO ONE ELSE CAN HAVE THAT. Therefore, Ursula, since she has 1 R, she cannot have 1 H. She must therefore have 2 and not 3. Why not 3? Well it's because you gotta have 3 different types of flowers! So That means Ursula would have 1 Rose, 2 Hyacinths, and 2 of either gardenias OR lilies.

I hope this help give you a guide on how to move forward!!
 
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Re: Diagram

by NaW319 Sat Jan 04, 2020 10:26 pm

The attached url is the picture of the set-up that I draw. I do feel that this game is so complicated that I can’t explain its set-up by words. Also I really don’t know how to attach pictures on this forum. :roll: :roll: :roll:
This is a freaking hard game also the whole game set is freaking hard. Took me 45 mins to finish with -2.
I feel that the key to this game is rule 6&7, those are two rules that decide the sub sketch boards.
Hope this helps.
https://shimo.im/docs/DyGvGvTCgQvQyh8r/
Besides it may be difficult to open this because I’m in China now and I’m kind of blocked from google docs, if you know how to attach pictures plz let me know.
Thank you!
 
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Re: Diagram

by HumphreyY750 Thu Jan 09, 2020 9:28 pm

I kneel before G3.

I would say in practice unless you are extremely good at logical games, the best practice is to make a judgment early on to skip G3 and come back after you finish G4, if you could ever finish G4.

Either way, the most important thing is not to panic and let bygones be bygones. Even if you can only finish G1,G2, and G4 and had to guess on all the questions of G3, 165-170 is still relatively achievable. [If you normally score between 165 to 175.]

Remember a 168 is not that different from 170. But if you panic and get a 163, it is very different from 170.


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Re: Diagram

by smiller Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:25 pm

Image

#officialexplanation
 
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Re: Diagram

by EmilieW17 Fri Jan 08, 2021 3:54 pm

Hi there! For #15, I am still a little confused. I thought it states that "each person uses exactly three kinds of flower". In this response, wouldn't Will only have two kinds, not three kinds of flowers (L & G only)?
 
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Re: Diagram

by Misti Duvall Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:14 pm

EmilieW17 Wrote:Hi there! For #15, I am still a little confused. I thought it states that "each person uses exactly three kinds of flower". In this response, wouldn't Will only have two kinds, not three kinds of flowers (L & G only)?



You're right that each person uses exactly three kinds of flower, but they each have four flowers total. So Will could have G (2), L, and R.
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