Q10 - To be great, an artwork

[LSAT-Chang]

I was debating between (A) and (D) on this one, but my diagram showed me that both were correct, which obviously isn't right, so I just went with (A).. here is what I diagrammed:

great --> express deep emotion
express deep emotion --> creator capable of experiencing emotion

So I just linked those statements and got:

G --> EDE --> CCEE

With (A), I had:

express deep emotion --> creator capable of experiencing emotion

which is just the second sentence!

Now with (D), I had:

NOT creator capable of experiencing emotion --> NOT great

which can be inferred from the contrapositive of "G --> CCEE" which is "NOT CCEE --> NOT G".

Does (A) have something to do with "creating" artworks? I wasn't sure if that was why the answer choice was wrong...

[chike_eze]

I was debating between (A) and (D) on this one, but my diagram showed me that both were correct, which obviously isn't right, so I just went with (A).. here is what I diagrammed:

great --> express deep emotion
express deep emotion --> creator capable of experiencing emotion

I think your second statement should be...

not express deep emotion -> not author experience emotion
Contrapositive: author experience emotion -> express deep emotion

[LSAT-Chang]

I think your second statement should be...

not express deep emotion -> not author experience emotion
Contrapositive: author experience emotion -> express deep emotion

How would you get (D) with this?

Isn't (D) telling us: "NOT capable of experiencing emotion --> NOT create good works"??

Could you explain further how you translated the second sentence into that? This one was a funky one to diagram (the second sentence), but how I interpreted it was:

Since an artwork cannot express an emotion that the artwork's creator is incapable of experiencing, if an artwork CAN express an emotion, that means that the artworks' creator IS capable of experincing those emotions.

[chike_eze]

Hmm, you make a good point. I think I may have made an error.
Let me think about this a bit.

Cheers!

[superduperchong]

(A) is wrong because it talks about creating an artwork (that expresses sorrow or love), not creating a great artwork. From the stimulus, we don't know that creating all types of artwork that express emotions require experiencing the emotions, we just know that creating great artwork does.

Hope that helps! If not, here it is in formal logic.

Stimulus:
G --> EDE
~EX --> ~EDE (or EDE --> EX)

Can combine to G --> EDE --> EX

G: great artwork
EDE: express deep emotion
EX: experience

(A) AESL --> EX
AESL: artwork expressing sorrow or love (never says anything about being great!)
EX: experience

So, in translating (A), it brings in a completely new subject/symbol.

Explanation of (D)
From the stimulus, we get this chain:
G --> EDE --> EX, which is also ~ EX --> ~EDE --> ~G

and (D) translated is ~EX --> ~G

[timmydoeslsat]

I think the idea you are missing is that answer choice A is stating that the computer must have experienced the emotion. In the stimulus, it simply states that we need just a capability.

I think that is all you need on this question!

[geverett]

That is definitely all you need. I got this question right when I took it as a timed PT, but going back over it untimed I found myself starting at A for quite some time without knowing why I initially eliminated it. As Timmy said A is refuted b/c of the difference between being capable to experience an emotion and actually experiencing that emotion.

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

Nice job timmydoeslsat and geverett! Your reasoning for eliminating answer choice (A) is right on!

[irini101]

So "as long as" refers to sufficient condition instead of necessary condition right? I have been confused by it for a while!

Could any one please confirm it? Thanks in advance!

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

Just be careful...

As long as you eat your vegetables you may watch television.

This doesn't mean that if you eat vegetables that you will watch television, just that you're permitted to watch television.

Generally speaking though, "as long as" represents the only condition that must be met. This is similar to "all that is needed is" or "depends only on."

All of these introduce the sole requirement for something else to occur and thus represent sufficient conditions.

Hope that helps!

[irini101]

Sorry but I still don't understand. "the sole requirement for something else to occur and thus represent sufficient conditions."

So it is the one and only necessary condition or sufficient condition?

I used to think "as long as" definitely a necessary condition but then confronted several LR such as this one which really confused me, now I am thinking it's somewhere between sufficient and necessary condition (I know it is absurd)

[ManhattanPrepLSAT1]

Suppose the statement reads, "As long as there is no windstorm this winter, the roof will remain in good condition."

~WS ---> RG

WS = windstorm, RG = roof is good

The term introduced by "as long as" represents "all that is needed" for the roof to remain in good condition.

So if you see a term that is the only thing that is needed for something else to occur, the sole requirement becomes a sufficient condition.

Take a look at the following examples to see this in a few other questions.

PT13, S2, Q11 - If the forest continues
PT3, S2, Q13 - If that insect is a bee [paying special attention to answer choice (D)]

And let me know if you still need a bit more clarification on this!

[irini101]

Suppose "as long as" satisfied the condition "all that is needed, is it also the necessary condition besides being a sufficient condition?

eg. in the example you mentioned, is it OK if I understand as follows:

~WS <---> RG

Thanks in advance!

[dean.won]

Is E wrong because of "succeed"?

I thought the conditional GA --> emotions
was correct so i chose it...

[hychu3]

(E) is wrong because a "great artwork" and "great artist" are two distinct concepts. A great artist may still produce some artworks that are not great.