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Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by ohthatpatrick Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:09 pm

Question Type:
Strengthen

Stimulus Breakdown:
Conclusion: Not so sure about this theory that C was a cruel and insane tyrant.
Evidence: There's little documentation of his crazy reign, and the history we DO have comes from his enemies (so presumably may be biased and unfairly negative).

Answer Anticipation:
If we were trying to defend the traditional view, can we think of any rejoinders we'd make?

We might say, "Yes there's little documentation, but that's cuz nothing had a paper trail back then, not because C's cruel reign didn't happen. We have ORAL history that tells us about it!"

Or we might say, "Yes the only reports of his cruel reign we have came from his enemies, but maybe the enemies were telling the truth. And maybe C's subjects were all too afraid of him to write their own damning history."

Since our job is to strengthen the challenge, the correct answer might go the opposite direction of one of these possible objections. Or, it might just provide independent evidence that makes it less plausible that C was a cruel and insane tyrant.

Correct Answer:
C

Answer Choice Analysis:
(A) This would probably Weaken. If C's reign is unusually deprived of documentation, then "a lack of documentation of his badness" is not a great way to doubt "his badness".

(B) It's not clear how this would affect anything. We don't know if C was regarded as a cruel tyrant back when people were still living under him.

(C) THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. Please tell me why. :) I think they're trying to go for some notion of "you can't trust the little documentation that exists, because the specific events described are too similar to those of previous tyrant-documentation ... it's unlikely that a bunch of evil rulers all performed the same specific outrageous acts, so it's more likely that these documents are a copy of something that happened before or that they are not actual reports but just recycled stories."

(D) This seems to weaken. It sounds like C really WAS cruel.

(E) Modern tyrants seem out of scope, but this at least promotes the idea that "it is POSSIBLE for there to be documentation of horrible tyrants. It's not like horrible tyrants always destroy the paper trail. Thus, if C really were a horrible tyrant, wouldn't we expect to see more documentation?" However, it could just be that modern tyrants have more documentation because they're modern. And it's also making it seem like these tyrants were worse than C, so that could be the reason their awfulness was better documented. The best version of this answer would have been "There is ample documentation of other contemporaneous tyrants being responsible for acts similar to those attributed to Caligula."

Takeaway/Pattern: LSAT, what are you doing to me? We used to be besties. I knew exactly what made you tick! I have no idea what they're going for here.

I'm guessing they think that (C) further undermines the credibility of the little documentation that does exist. But I don't get why a similarity to other purported tyrants diminishes the credibility. It certainly would make Caligula sound less original, as a cruel tyrant, but I don't see why it makes it less credible that Caligula was a cruel tyrant. Couldn't he have gotten his specific ideas for evil from stories of past tyrants? He read about them as a kid and dreamed, "One day ... I'LL be the one chopping off everyone's ring finger and feeding it to my private tank of piranhas!"

#officialexplanation
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by peterbobolis Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:31 pm

WTF...how did this one get past the experimental phase? I don't get it.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by RachelK18 Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:04 am

I'm not clear why A wouldn't strengthen, as it seems to reinforce the historians' point that "little documentation... survives from the time of his reign." I took that to emphasize that a greater percentage of the documentation shaping our perception of Caligula's rule was handed down to us by his enemies. How am I mis-reading this?
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by LukeM22 Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:22 pm

The unstated assumption the challengers are working off is that "little documentation of misdeeds" is a result of few bad deeds to document. In other words, something bad--> something bad documented.

A) weakens because it provides an alternative reason: that there was little documentation of ANYTHING, which neuters the assumption that anything bad would have been documented.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by GlenH807 Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:10 pm

I eliminated all the answer choices but A and went with it. But during blind review C seems to stand out

One of the reason I can see why C is right is because it shows that the claims that were made about Caligula are potentially mere allegation. By showing that the "documentation are very similar to acts attributed in earlier writings to other rulers alleged to be cruel tyrants", it opens up the possibility that maybe Caligula was not a cruel tyrant.

A, however, seems to boost the premise by saying there are "less documentation of any sort". And it could be the case that most other Roman emperors of Caligula's era were all notorious tyrants and so the fact that there are lesser documentation might not weaken the argument.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by DavidH327 Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:36 pm

I initially got this question wrong because I chose A.
Now I understand why A is incorrect, I am trying to make sense why C strengthens.

C seems to rule out the possibility that the nature of outrageous acts were different. For example, past rulers "cut people's fingers off for joy" while Caligula "cut people's heads off for joy." (sorry for terrible example) This could weaken the argument that "emperor was probably not cruel."
But then on a second thought, I don't know if I can assume "some types of outrageous acts" are more tyrannical than others.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by HannahM495 Tue Oct 23, 2018 8:36 pm

Answer choice C stood out to me because the argument posited by modern histories seems to emphasize the fallibility of the historical record over time: first, there is little documentation, and moreover, what history was recorded may not be entirely accurate.

Answer choice C seems to be the only one that plays on that same sentiment: not only is the existing historical record unclear, but we must now also call into question whether these are merely stories passed along from a mythological ancient Roman tradition. It's sort of highlighting the possibility that stories about tyrant kings have been sensationalized in history and are more of a cultural artifact than historical accuracy.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by JesseR524 Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 pm

This question is actually shocking to me. What does it matter if the acts attributed to him are also attributed to others? I do see the angle - they're basically saying that this indicates that the stories about him are generic tales rather than specific descriptions of his actions - but I also feel that choosing C makes for a typical flawed argument.

"The traditional view of the Roman Emperor Caligula as an insane tyrant is probably not true. After all, there is little documentation about it and that documentation describes acts that are similar to the acts attributed to other cruel tyrants."

What. the. actual. hell.

I feel very betrayed by questions like this - they're asking us to use an assumption that would normally be classified as a flaw to strengthen an argument. I don't see this as evidence of their genius or as an indication that they've outwitted the most skilled test-takers. I see it as very sloppy. In the real world, the argument that tales about tyrants are repetitive and possibly formulaic prods us to think about the way we tell and re-tell historical narratives (again, I see where they're going with "C."). That said, they consistently encourage us to abandon real-world logic and in the LSAT world what is said about other tyrants should have nothing to do with what is said about Caligula - we're not talking about others and we cannot come to the conclusion that Caligula wasn't a tyrant by noting that other people have been described in similar ways.

I would love someone to weigh in on this further. I'm very confused.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by WesleyC316 Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:16 am

You gotta be kidding me, LSAT writers......

All right, in their defense, "SPECIFIC OUTRAGEOUS acts" is the key here; it's unlikely for an act that is both specific and outrageous to be attributed to multiple tyrants...... Therefore it must be that the enemies of Caligula were plagiarizing.......

Fine, you win.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by KingKai Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:44 pm

My thoughts on why answer C is correct:

Concl: Roman Emperor Cal. was not a bad guy
Evidence/Premise: The documents that say he was a bad guy are questionably unreliable

Answer C further builds on the reasoning used in the stimulus by essentially saying, "what makes these documents even more suspicious is that they're a 'copy and paste' description of what the tyrants before Cal did."
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by WilliamS670 Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:04 am

(yawn)

Flabbergasted as well. It's as if the stimulus (or the answer choice) is missing a line stating or implying that reports of earlier tyrants weren't reliable. That would make (C) work. As it stands now? Get outta here.
 
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Re: Q23 - The traditional view of the Roman emperor Caligula

by jeremyk607 Fri Aug 06, 2021 7:00 am

GlenH807 Wrote:I eliminated all the answer choices but A and went with it. But during blind review C seems to stand out

One of the reason I can see why C is right is because it shows that the claims that were made about Caligula are potentially mere allegation. By showing that the "documentation are very similar to acts attributed in earlier writings to other rulers alleged to be cruel tyrants", it opens up the possibility that maybe Caligula was not a cruel tyrant.


i don't think the word 'alleged' opens up what you think it opens up

'alleged' is explicitly used in the stimulus in the context of Caligula
and just because Caligula's predecessors were 'alleged' to be dicks and Caligula was also 'alleged' to be a dick, doesn't mean the allegations are suddenly overturned

premises:
there's little documentation of C's alleged shittiness
the documentation we have of this was written by his opposition

conclusion:
C wasn't an insane tyrannical ruler

inferences:
the documentation is written by C's opposition, but that doesn't necessarily mean there's a bias.

Marshal Pétain of France was Hitler's worst enemy
Pétain wrote about Hitler's insanities, but i can't be like 'no Hitler wasn't insane, Pétain is biased'...

this is why (c) strengthens

C's acts of cruelty documented are the same as some of his predecessor's acts of cruelty documented earlier

this suggests a sort of persuasion bias

opposition parties attribute the same acts of cruelty to C and to some of his predecessors; and these are the histories survived from that era; the only histories we have

which means this is our only fountain of knowledge pertaining to this topic of C's cruel behaviors
and having zero variance in kinds of information, and a narrow stream of sources (C's enemies) builds a solid foundation for propaganda or persuasion bias

persuasion bias consists of things like: first-person anecdotes, a well-sourced persuader, emotionally charged words, and tactical repetition of persuasion (the attribution of the same acts of cruelty)

the repetitive cases of similar ascriptions throughout history strips away some of the objectivity behind C's enemies's claims

these are the same ascriptions being reused and recycled for generations, it just sounds like propaganda (form of persuasion bias)

so for the posters above who think this is a terrible answer choice, it's actually pretty legit